Standing Senate Committee on Banking Commerce and the Economy 43rd Parliament 2nd Session

Banking, Commerce and the Economy

The Senate Bank, Trading, and Commercial Standing Committee held a meeting at 11:00 am today (Eastern the United States) at a video conference to discuss the C-218 C-218 C-218.

President Howard Wetston (Chair) is the chairman.

Good morning, Senator Senator. First of all, I would like to welcome the members of the committee, the reference person, and those who are watching this meeting on the web. I am the chair of the Ontario state elected Howard Wetston, the Senate Bank, Trade and Commercial Standing Committee.

Before you start, there are some simple precautions: Unless the chair doesn't say your name, make the microphone mute. Please raise your hand before speaking. Today, we will continue to deliberate and review the C-218 C-218, the Law to Revise the Penal Code (Sports Betting).

Then, I would like you to introduce yourself in order from the vic e-chairman. I don't know if I can hear the story of Senator Walin. There seems to be a little problem. If she comes out, please introduce yourself at that time. I am the vic e-chairman of Suscachuwan.

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This is Larry Smith in Capecus Smith Cebec

I'm Elizabeth Marshall of Marshall Labrador New Fandland Labrador

Senator Wells David Wells, New Fandland Labrador

C. Senator Colin DiCon Novas Cocia Senator Senator Senator

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Senator Dagene Senator Jea n-Gi Dagenequebec

Bellmare: Diane Bellmare, Quebec.

Representative Loffrada Senator Tony Loffreda, from Quebec

Monsion Member Ontario, Lucy Monsion

Klein: I'm Marty Klein in Saska Catwan. I'm from leisure. I recognize that I am in the territory of the Treaty 4, the hometown of Methis in Saskachuwan.

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Senator RINGUETTE: New Brands Wick

There is also a chairman Cotter. Please introduce yourself.

I'm a member of Cotter selected by Cotter Suscachuwan

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I'm Paul Mashicot in Masicot, Cebec

Thank you to the chair.

I will comment a little at the beginning. The procedure has changed a little today. I would like to proceed with that in mind. Needless to say, there are time constraints on the Senate's schedule. Of course, we have this bill and want to proceed. I want to proceed quickly.

What I thought was that when we move forward, I would like you to take into account the following: Today, we would like to gather with five organizations and talk as much as possible. For that purpose, I would like to pay attention to the questions in the sense that if possible, do not use lon g-term fronteners. Specifically, let's survive today's witness by focusing on questions. There is a very important witness in front of me today.

Second, in order to handle this type of bill, we would like you to consider that when you report to the Senate, you may have the opportunity to give this bill.

The third thing in my comment today is that if this was achieved, this bill is a short bill, but it is an important bill and many meanings. I hope that today's conference will be able to enter into discussions for each clause because there are time constraints in promoting the Agenda of the Senate. That way, if there is more opportunities for discussions in the Senate and there is a possibility of correction, you can deal with it ahead of time.

Of course, I want to talk on that premise. At first glance, I would like to have a chance to talk to witnesses, unless there is an objection to the approach at this point (although it may be a bit more objection). Today we have a very important group, so I would like to proceed with the first panel.

Is it OK on that?

I agree with the Senator.

Chair: There is no objection. thank you very much.

Let's talk from the first panel. Three organizations. First of all, please from Philips of the Alcohol Gaming Committee, Ontario. Next is British Colombia Lottery Corporation and White of the responsible gambling council.

Please introduce yourself. Please make your remarks brief. We want to hear your opinions, but we also want to ask questions. I would also like to thank those who provided briefs. thank you very much.

Good morning, chairman of the Alcohol Gaming Committee, David Philips Ontario, and all members of the committee. Thank you for giving this opportunity to cooperate with the bill C-218 on behalf of the Alcohol Gaming Committee, Ontario.

My name is David Philips. The State, which is the highest executive (COO) of the Alcohol and Gaming of ONTARIO (COO) of the Alcohol and Gaming of Ontario, and is required to regulate the Alcohol, cannabis retail, horse racing, lottery, and gambling categories. It is an institution.

The committee has been regulating the Gambling industry in the Ontario state for nearly 30 years, and is now the only regulation in the state operated by land casinos, charitable gambling, lottery, online charity, and online lottery gambling. There are online gambling sites.

Policy experts in fields such as responsible gambling and ant i-money laundering, before gambling systems are safe and secure before entering the market, before gambling businesses and suppliers enter the market Du e-Deligence Survey is a licensing expert, and the ontario Police's internal bureau, which is located throughout the state to eliminate crimes from the legal gambling industry.

AGCO also maintains a wide range of networks with international regulatory authorities, from New Jersey, Nevada to Singapore and the United Kingdom.

These relationships are culturally in the memorandum, enabling hig h-level cooperation and powerful and seamless information sharing of common concerns.

The Ontario government strongly supports the legalization of single games and sports betting in Canada.

Currently, the no n-regulated offshore sports betting sites are betting billions of dollars every year. If the bill is passed, the market may be rapidly converted, and Canadian people may be able to use safe and secure domestic sports betting.

As your committee knows, the draft is being considered at the same time as Ontario has promised to introduce the first competitive online gambling market in Canada and move forward. We are confident in the ability to realize a powerful regulatory director for this market.

In preparation for the opening of the online gambling market in Online and the possibility of legalization of single game sports betting by the bill C-218, AGCO has been immersed in the renewal of regulation frameworks. This also includes a liable gambling field, has recently announced the latest regulation standards that restrict advertising activities, oblige sel f-exclusion programs, and to provide systems to detect signs of gambling addiction. It also includes new criteria and license requirements for businesses, suppliers, and their partners to stop all commercial activities in the ontario under control market.

Finally, we are actively working on formulating specific standards for sports betting to reduce the operation risks of the betting market by matchfixing and insiderbetting. To struggle with international matchmakers, regulatory authorities, legal execution agencies, sports leagues, businesses, and independent market monitors need to work together. AGCO's powerful presence in the international regulatory community will be very useful for us.

I would like to thank the committee who gave me this opportunity on behalf of me as well as me. We look forward to your question.

Thank you, Philips. thank you. Let's visit the British Columbia Lottery Corporation.

Good morning, Stewart Gurmutis, British Colombia Lottery Corporation, E-game Director: Bank, Trade and Commercial Standing Committee, Good morning. This is Jamie Weavy, the director of player Health.

Since 1985, about $ 25 billion has been returned to BC from BCLC's revenue and has supported important investment in medical, education, and community programs. BC has 16 casinos, 17 community gaming center, 3, 500 lottery counter, retail store, and hospitality facilities, and PlayNow. com accounts for tw o-thirds of the BC online gambling market. 。 AGCO has been immersed in the renewal of regulation frameworks in preparation for the opening of the online gambling market in Online and the possibility of legalization of single game sports betting by the bill C-218. This also includes a liable gambling field, has recently announced the latest regulation standards that restrict advertising activities, oblige sel f-exclusion programs, and to provide systems to detect signs of gambling addiction. It also includes new criteria and license requirements for businesses, suppliers, and their partners to stop all commercial activities in the ontario under control market.

I would like to thank the committee who gave me this opportunity on behalf of me as well as me. We look forward to your question.

Thank you, Philips. thank you. Let's visit the British Columbia Lottery Corporation.

Good morning, Stewart Gurmutis, British Colombia Lottery Corporation, E-game Director: Bank, Trade and Commercial Standing Committee, Good morning. This is Jamie Weavy, the director of player Health.

Since 1985, about $ 25 billion has been returned to BC from BCLC's revenue and has supported important investment in medical, education, and community programs. BC has 16 casinos, 17 community gaming center, 3, 500 lottery counter, retail store, and hospitality facilities, and PlayNow. com accounts for tw o-thirds of the BC online gambling market. 。 In preparation for the opening of the online gambling market in Online and the possibility of legalization of single game sports betting by the bill C-218, AGCO has been immersed in the renewal of regulation frameworks. This also includes a liable gambling field, has recently announced the latest regulation standards that restrict advertising activities, oblige sel f-exclusion programs, and to provide systems to detect signs of gambling addiction. It also includes new criteria and license requirements for businesses, suppliers, and their partners to stop all commercial activities in the ontario under control market.

I would like to thank the committee who gave me this opportunity on behalf of me as well as me. We look forward to your question.

Thank you, Philips. thank you. Let's visit the British Colombia lottery.

Good morning, Stewart Gurmutis, British Colombia Lottery Corporation, E-game Director: Bank, Trade and Commercial Standing Committee, Good morning. This is Jamie Weavy, the director of player Health.

We believe single event betting represents a huge opportunity for B. C. and all of Canada. It is estimated that over $1 billion in sports betting is done annually in B. C., but B. C. players already go across the border to Washington state casinos or use unregulated offshore websites to bet on single events. None of this generates revenue for B. C., nor does it support jobs in B. C. In fact, we estimate that $250 million in revenue has left B. C. and gone to offshore sites over the past five years.

If single event betting were allowed, we estimate that the total market for sports betting in B. C. would be between $125 million and $175 million in revenue. BCLC believes it can capture the majority of that market. If legalized, BCLC would be able to offer these services to players almost immediately on playnow. com, creating new opportunities for sports betting that are already offered on offshore websites. In the mid to long term, we will also introduce single-event betting to land-based casinos and lottery and hospitality markets.

We also believe that regulated provincial gambling organizations are uniquely positioned to offer single-event betting in a safe and secure manner that prioritizes player health.

As part of our strengthened player health efforts at playnow. com, BCLC is committed to identifying indicators of high-risk or problem gambling, proactively intervening when we believe players are experiencing harm, and exploring incentivizing healthy playing behaviors through player rewards. These new initiatives go hand in hand with player health protections we already have at playnow. com.

Playnow. com is also the only online gambling site in North America, and one of the few in the world, to have dedicated online player health specialists available to online players by phone and live chat to support informed decision-making and healthy play.

We believe single-event sports betting in Canada is something we are all ready for. We urge you and my colleagues in the Senate to work collaboratively to make this a reality, for the benefit of Canadian players and our provinces. Thank you.

Thank you for your testimony. The content is simple and I am very grateful. Next, is it okay to be a responsible gambling council?

Sherry White, the responsible Gambling Council, is good morning, all of the members. I am Sherry White, but I am grateful that I was invited to convey our views on the bill C-218 on behalf of the responsible gambling council.

Introducing the responsible gambling council (RGC) standards and certification directors, Tracy Parker.

RGC is a no n-profitable organization in Canada, aiming to prevent the gambling and reduce its impact. Canada is regarded as a developed country with responsible gambling, and we are proud of being a member.

In recent years, sports betting has gained popularity, and the evidence of who is gambling, which can support the safer sports betting industry, has increased along with it.

In 2020, our organization conducted a vertical survey on the impact of COVID-19 on the Ontari gambling behavior. The survey showed that the number of online gambling has increased and the number of people engaged in sports gambling has increased significantly. The important thing is that 47 % of sportsbetters are gambling addiction and 13 % are serious anxiety. The use of players alcohol and cannabis has also increased. This study is also related to gambling during the COVID period, but it has been known that the impact will have a long period of time. This survey clearly shows the importance of preventive measures as a priority in the future.

Gambling has existed in Canada for many years, but it is important how sports betting is different from other gambling. Sportsbetting links gambling to your favorite entertainment that can be enjoyed by millions of Canadians. This relevance normalizes gambling.

In addition, the emotions associated with enthusiastic gameplay may make it difficult to make enough information about spending and playing time, along with the possibility of using alcohol and cannabis at the same time. 。

With no regulations as it is now, weak people are at risk. With these people in mind, today we will talk to you. RGC believes that passing the bill C-218 will be good for Canadians and Canadian society.

This will allow provincial authorities to establish a regulatory framework for single-event sports betting that places consumer protection at the heart of regulation.

The legalization of single-event sports betting must include a robust regulatory framework that requires provincial regulators and operators to prioritize and incorporate consumer protection into their strategies, including adherence to and accountability for the highest standards of responsible gambling.

Second, the federal government will continue to support mental health and well-being and addiction prevention, in line with the Mental Health Commission's strategy. This can be achieved by prioritizing consumer safety and supporting provincial authorities to continue building capacity to educate and support individuals and their communities.

The good news is that we do not need to reinvent the wheel when it comes to iGaming standards. Most standards already exist and apply to land-based gambling.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. White. Thank you.

Senator Smith: I would like to ask the Responsible Gambling Council (RGC) to continue this discussion. You have been talking about helping people who are caught in the trap of illegal gambling. Do you think Bill C-218 will help keep illegal operators and players out?

And after you comment, let me ask the other witnesses to comment.

Mr. White: Thank you for your question. As I said at the beginning, we strongly believe that by carefully screening operators who have the right qualification criteria and who put consumer protection first, and by creating a robust regulatory framework, we can provide Canadians with the opportunity to choose legal operators and weed out illegal operators through our enforcement system, our regulatory system, and so on.

Senator Smith: How long do you think it will take to work with provincial authorities to put in place the infrastructure necessary to implement this new system?

As Mr. White said, we are already working with AGCO to develop a standard for Igaming, which incorporates responsible gambling standards. In my understanding, AGCO wants to start online gambling and sports betting at the end of this year. After that, depending on when the other states will be available, you will have to make a schedule to expand to other jurisdictions in Canada.

Senator Smith, White, suggested that your association and council support the initiative of the bill C-218?

White: Yes. Regulations are absolutely necessary to protect the vulnerable, provide powerful regulations, and incorporate consumer protection into standards and regulations.

Thank you for the chair. Let's go next. As for this field, I think there will be comments from the referendum as you go next. If you do a wide range of questions, you can give all members a question.

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Bellmare: I refuse first, but I'm not a bet. I rarely know the world of betting, especially onlinebetting. I understand that gambling and sports betting are likely to grow. As already in the lottery field, sports betting can be considered to have public elements.

Do each state do business with them in their own market, or compete between states? How do the stakeholders open up their places in private sector, especially online sports betting operators in the indigenous community? How does it work? Is it regulated by the state? Is Sports Betting directed by a public department?

The chairperson will undertake it? Philips, please. As Mr. White said, we are already developing a standard for Igaming, which coordinates the responsible gambling standards in cooperation with AGCO. In my understanding, AGCO wants to start online gambling and sports betting at the end of this year. After that, depending on when the other states will be available, you will have to make a schedule to expand to other jurisdictions in Canada.

Senator Smith, White, suggested that your association and council support the initiative of the bill C-218?

White: Yes. Regulations are absolutely necessary to protect the vulnerable, provide powerful regulations, and incorporate consumer protection into standards and regulations.

Thank you for the chair. Let's go next. As for this field, I think there will be comments from the referendum as you go next. If you do a wide range of questions, you can give all members a question.

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The chairperson will undertake it? Philips, please. As Mr. White said, we are already working with AGCO to develop a standard for Igaming, which incorporates responsible gambling standards. In my understanding, AGCO wants to start online gambling and sports betting at the end of this year. After that, depending on when the other states will be available, you will have to make a schedule to expand to other jurisdictions in Canada.

Senator Smith, White, suggested that your association and council support the initiative of the bill C-218?

White: Yes. Regulations are absolutely necessary to protect the vulnerable, provide powerful regulations, and incorporate consumer protection into standards and regulations.

Thank you for the chair. Let's go next. As for this field, I think there will be comments from the referendum as you go next. If you do a wide range of questions, you can give all members a question.

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The chairperson will undertake it? Philips, please.

Philips: First, I would like to ask you. The first question is whether each state competes with each other, but in general, the sports betting markets are surrounded by ring fences, as in other gambling markets. There are various methods for this. Of course, in the casino of the actual store, gambling activities are performed in the facility. Regarding online gambling, I think that it is required not only in Ontario but also in other states, but the residents of Ontario only play on sites under the regulations of Ontario, and do not play on other sites. You can affirm that geographical position information technology is needed to guarantee. Some people call this a "garden surrounded by walls".

There is no simple answer to the relationship between the state's gambling regulation and the First Nations. Frankly, it depends on the state regulation framework. It also depends on the type of gambling, such as land gambling, charity gambling, and online gambling. So I can't say it unconditionally.

Ontario is actively working to open the competitive online gambling market by the end of this year, and the Ministry of Finance and the Secretary of Justice are an indigenous community to solve such problems. We plan to discuss directly.

Thank you for the chair. Do you have any other opinions? got it.

Thank you to all the members of the Lohrada member.

One of the major concerns in this bill is to maintain the perfection of sports competitions. The most susceptible to the sports world is the lowest salary. Everyone is worried about the athletes, but they are not athletes, but those involved in referees and anpaye. In the European league, the 800 were performed for many years, and the referee was performed.

In terms of foreign judicial rights, is there a special lesson from other countries that Canadian laws and policies should consider on this bill to maintain the integrity of sports based on your experience? ?

Chairman Loffreda, is this for all the panels? Philips: First, I would like to ask you. The first question is whether each state competes with each other, but in general, the sports betting markets are surrounded by ring fences, as in other gambling markets. There are various methods for this. Of course, in the casino of the actual store, gambling activities are performed in the facility. Regarding online gambling, I think that it is required not only in Ontario but also in other states, but the residents of Ontario only play on sites under the regulations of Ontario, and do not play on other sites. You can affirm that geographical position information technology is needed to guarantee. Some people call this a "garden surrounded by walls".

Thank you for the chair. Do you have any other opinions? got it.

Thank you to all the members of the Lohrada member.

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Chairman Loffreda, is this for all the panels? Philips: First, I would like to ask you. The first question is whether each state competes with each other, but in general, the sports betting markets are surrounded by ring fences, as in other gambling markets. There are various methods for this. Of course, in the casino of the actual store, gambling activities are performed in the facility. Regarding online gambling, I think that it is required not only in Ontario but also in other states, but the residents of Ontario only play on sites under the regulations of Ontario, and do not play on other sites. You can affirm that geographical position information technology is needed to guarantee. Some people call this a "garden surrounded by walls".

Thank you for the chair. Do you have any other opinions? got it.

Thank you to all the members of the Lohrada member of the Diet.

One of the major concerns in this bill is to maintain the perfection of sports competitions. The most susceptible to the sports world is the lowest salary. Everyone is worried about the athletes, but they are not athletes, but those involved in referees and anpaye. In the European league, the 80 0-match was held for many years, and it was held through the referee.

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Senator Lofreda: Anyone who is experienced is all the panels.

Gourmutis: I will answer on behalf of BCLC. One of the important things to recognize about matchfixing is that there is no border. Even if the Vancouver Canax match is played in British Colombia, betting may be in New Jersey or the United Kingdom. So I think the key to solving matchfixing must be international. The league needs to start creating a framework with the regulated businesses. The challenge is that in most cases, the actual betting is not performed in the same law. Gambling may be held in our jurisdiction and other places around the world, but we need to partner with other jurisdictions.

I think all the key is to put all sports betting under restrictions, gather the regulated businesses and start creating a framework. The UK is the most advanced to identify where the unexpected bet is being made and share the data among businesses. There is no way to track it.

It is a really simple question. It is for BCLC's Glumortis.

Are there any spending to support amateur sports organizations such as CFL and NHL?

Gourmutis We have funding to the local community and funding for the sports league. At the moment, there is nothing specialized in the matchmaker. I think there is room for consideration. Also, I think it is a state requirement. The state needs to recognize the advantages of sports betting in a single event, and also need to recognize the importance of investing to support the league.

Wells is wonderful. thank you. That's it for the question.

Monsion Monsion My question is about the higher the risk. As for this, I think you have answered questions, but I would like to ask you again. Senator Loffrada: Anyone who is experienced is all the panels.

It is a really simple question. It is for BCLC's Glumortis.

Are there any spending to support amateur sports organizations such as CFL and NHL?

Wells is wonderful. thank you. That's it for the question.

Monsion Monsion My question is about the higher the risk. As for this, I think you have answered questions, but I would like to ask you again. Senator Lofreda: Anyone who is experienced is all the panels.

Gourmutis: I will answer on behalf of BCLC. One of the important things to recognize about matchfixing is that there is no border. Even if the Vancouver Canax match is played in British Colombia, betting may be in New Jersey or the United Kingdom. So I think the key to solving matchfixing must be international. The league needs to start creating a framework with the regulated businesses. The challenge is that in most cases, the actual betting is not performed in the same law. Gambling may be being held in our jurisdiction and other places around the world, but we need to partner with other jurisdictions.

It is a really simple question. It is for BCLC's Glumortis.

Are there any spending to support amateur sports organizations such as CFL and NHL?

Wells is wonderful. thank you. That's it for the question.

Monsion Monsion My question is about the more risky vulnerable. As for this, I think you have answered questions, but I would like to ask again.

You often talk about the strong regulations that will be introduced. I want to know what other measures are being taken to protect such weak people. I want to know about the responsible gambling education investment. What will happen to the system?

Thank you for the Senator White, the responsible gambling of Canada and the protection of the vulnerable.

From a responsible gambling point of view, there are countless preventive education programs in each Canadian state. This is the highest priority. These programs include youth prevention education programs and adult preventive education programs. Some of these programs can be used in local communities and school systems. For example, if you have an organization like OLG. CA, you can use it online or online. Therefore, prevention and education, early detection programs, and treatment programs for those who are actually problems have very high priority.

As a responsible gambling council, we will incorporate it into each state's revenue models and to contribute to the responsible gambling fund, so that we will expand, early detection, and continuous surveys and evaluations. We propose that we will increase the funds that can be invested in the training program, continuously build existing abilities that exist in Canada, and enable all current stakeholders involved in these activities to participate. I will do it.

Currently, about 125 million dollars nationwide are spending for a responsible gambling, but considering the expansion and diversification of gambling, additional investment is certainly important.

British Columbia Lottary Corporation, Director of Player Health, Jamie Weavy: BCLC had an internal budget of about $ 10 million, focusing on players' health efforts last year. BCLC also provides $ 1. 250, 000 to the UBC Gambling Research Center, along with the Gaming Policy and Enforcement Brunch (GPEB). You often talk about the strong regulations that will be introduced. I want to know what other measures are being taken to protect such weak people. I want to know about the responsible gambling education investment. What will happen to the system?

Thank you for the Senator White, the responsible gambling of Canada and the protection of the vulnerable.

Currently, about 125 million dollars nationwide are spending for a responsible gambling, but considering the expansion and diversification of gambling, additional investment is certainly important.

British Columbia Lottary Corporation, Director of Player Health Director Jamie Weavy: BCLC had an internal budget, focusing on players' health efforts last year. BCLC also provides $ 1. 250, 000 to the UBC Gambling Research Center, along with the Gaming Policy and Enforcement Brunch (GPEB). You often talk about the strong regulations that will be introduced. I want to know what other measures are being taken to protect such weak people. I want to know about the responsible gambling education investment. What will happen to the system?

Thank you for the Senator White, the responsible gambling of Canada and the protection of the vulnerable.

Currently, about 125 million dollars nationwide are spending for a responsible gambling, but considering the expansion and diversification of gambling, additional investment is certainly important.

In terms of strategy, this field has a short history, but has been attracting a lot of attention in research, and huge learning is done every year. What we know is that information is always important for the player to make a decision after getting enough information, but that alone is not enough. Therefore, BCLC focuses on marketing and product. Every time you buy a product or do marketing activities, we evaluate it from the viewpoint of players' health. Information is also important, but integration into actual business proceeding is also important.

Klein: Welcome to the guests. Ask questions to each of Ontario and BC's committee or institutions.

How many casinos are in your state, and how many casinos are owned or managed by indigenous people?

I think that many of the gaming companies and casinos in both inducers are interested in participating in single event sports betting. If this bill is passed, what kind of process will it be activated? For example, BCLC may be managed in BC.

The last question overlaps, how much is the new profits of sports betting at a single event, and are directly invested in sports to deal with responsible gaming programs, education and problem gaming?

Mr. Philips, first, tells you that there is a clear line between the regulatory authorities and the commercial division attached to the commercial management company, Ontario Lotry and Gaming Corporation.

Currently, there are 28 lan d-based casinos in the state. The two locations, Casino Lama and Great Blue Heron Casino, have a commercial relationship with the local community.

At the same time, Ontario has a lon g-standing revenue distribution to First Nations. A considerable number of first nations have signed a revenue distribution agreement with the state. This agreement is still ongoing and has a considerable amount for a long time.

Whether Sportsbetting will be introduced to a casino will eventually give an answer by the Ontario lottery and gaming cooperative through negotiations and discussions with five private businesses that operate 28 casinos every day. 。 In terms of

Although there is no speculation area, a sportsbook will be introduced to the actual store casino. I don't know how much. Perhaps it will take longer than online gambling, as changing infrastructure is required. I think there is no doubt that a sportsbook will be installed at least in some of the casinos in Ontario.

Regarding the question of how many percentage of income will be used for gambling programs only for gambling programs, RGC's excellent people will testify, but ontario's responsible gambling program research is a responsible gambling program. It has a long history of contributing public funds for treatment, and its consideration is currently underway. We are inviting Birgitte Sand, former director of Denmark's Gambling authorities, to work on various issues. There is no accurate answer, but we are considering it.

Klein: Thank you. I would like to hear from BCLC.

There is a Gourmutis 16 casino and 17 community gaming center. I don't know what the indigenous community owns or partially owns. BCLC has a fund to invest a certain percentage of revenue in the indigenous community. I don't know the exact proportion. Unfortunately, I'm not an expert in that field.

The only thing that can be said is that there is a plan to allow casiners, retail stores, and hospitality's sports betting for single events. It has not yet been decided how to develop, but we consider it as a product to be provided in many places.

Finally, as with all products, invest in the health and responsible gambling of the player. This is an investment, and at the same time, as Jamie Weavy said earlier, incorporating culture, beliefs, and the health of players into all our actions. If it is done alone, it will not really be part of the organization.

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I have a question for Dagenis Senator Ontario and British Colombia.

In Quebec, online gambling organizations have advertised extensively, especially during TV networks and sporting events. What these organizations are doing to escape Quebec's regulatory authorities is to set up a server in indigenous residents.

Is the same thing happening in your province? How are these online betting organizations affecting your revenue?

Mr. Grumoutis: We have tried many different means and methods to remove illegal operators from the market. Unfortunately, we have not found a solution like in the United States.

In all products, we compete head-on with illegal operators. In most products, like online casinos, we can dominate the market because we can show people that their funds are going back to BC. I think that if we can offer a comparable product, we will be able to dominate the market, just like online casinos.

Mr. Phillips: Ontario is similar to the Quebec case. In Ontario, we see quite a few online gaming ads. They are what are called "dot nets," sites where you can play for free.

Of course, the owner groups are groups that also offer real money betting. These are gambling operators, offshore operators, located all over the world. Interestingly, many of them are domestically regulated in the US and many EU jurisdictions. That's why Ontario is moving aggressively to introduce a competitive, regulated online gambling market by the end of this year.

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Senator Dagenais: Mr. Phillips, there is a big casino on the Akwesasne Reserve in Ontario. What is your relationship with the casino? Is it a good relationship? You said it's quite complicated.

Mr. Phillips: From our perspective, we don't have a formal relationship and it's not under our regulatory oversight or framework.

Senator Marshall: Is there a role for the federal government or is it limited to making laws? I know the federal government is involved in funding various health issues, such as addiction and gambling, but does the federal government have any role in the regulatory framework that you're talking about?

There are a variety of models around the Philips world, but Canada is similar to the United States in that the gambling industries are greatly exchanged to the state. Generally speaking, everyday regulations in the gaming market throughout Canada are performed at the state level.

Is there no problem with the consistency of regulations for each state of Marshall? Or is all jurisdictions on their own and the federal government not involved?

I think Philips British Columbia can also supplement. The regulation system is different for each state, and the rules and approaches of regulations are different.

At the same time, British Columbia has gaming and policy and enchanting brunches, and there are regulatory authorities we are working on regularly. British Colombia has gaming policy and execution departments. We may jointly conduct a duployment survey for operators that simultaneously enter the market in both shogunes.

In general, each state formulates its own rules and has its own institutions and approaches.

Thank you for Marshall.

There are two questions for Masicot Senator White and Weavy.

White, I read a little about your organization. Who is the activity funding? Where is the activity funding coming from?

Thank you for your question, White Mascot. Our funding sources are diverse. The Ontario government has received funding to provide services through the Ministry of Health and OLG. The Ministry of Health will develop and provide countless public education programs related to responsible gambling. OLG operates the Playsmart Center at 28 casinos and Igaming facilities in Ontario.

Other funds are sel f-procured. We operate a responsible gambling certification program and provide our revenue to operators in the jurisdiction of the entire Canada and Singapore.

We also conduct research and evaluation, and sign a contract with many royal family, regulatory organizations, and operators, which provide funds to conduct responsible gambling research. There are various models around the world, but Canada is similar to the United States because the gambling industries are widely exclaimed to the state. Generally speaking, everyday regulations in the gaming market throughout Canada are performed at the state level.

Is there no problem with the consistency of regulations for each state of Marshall? Or is all jurisdictions on their own and the federal government not involved?

I think Philips British Columbia can also supplement. The regulation system is different for each state, and the rules and approaches of regulations are different.

In general, each state formulates its own rules and has its own institutions and approaches.

Thank you for Marshall.

There are two questions for Masicot Senator White and Weavy.

White, I read a little about your organization. Who is the activity funding? Where is the activity funding coming from?

Other funds are sel f-procured. We operate a responsible gambling certification program and provide our revenue to operators in the jurisdiction of the entire Canada and Singapore.

We also conduct research and evaluation, and sign a contract with many royal family, regulatory organizations, and operators, which provide funds to conduct responsible gambling research. There are a variety of models around the Philips world, but Canada is similar to the United States in that the gambling industries are greatly exchanged to the state. Generally speaking, everyday regulations in the gaming market throughout Canada are performed at the state level.

Is there no problem with the consistency of regulations for each state of Marshall? Or is all jurisdictions on their own and the federal government not involved?

I think Philips British Columbia can also supplement. The regulation system is different for each state, and the rules and approaches of regulations are different.

In general, each state formulates its own rules and has its own institutions and approaches.

Thank you for Marshall.

There are two questions for Masicot Senator White and Weavy.

White, I read a little about your organization. Who is the activity funding? Where is the activity funding coming from?

Other funds are sel f-procured. We operate a responsible gambling certification program and provide our revenue to operators in the jurisdiction of the entire Canada and Singapore.

We also conduct research and evaluation, and sign a contract with many royal family, regulatory organizations, and operators, which provide funds to conduct responsible gambling research.

Senator Massicotte: You're really giving the impression to people listening that if casino operators and gaming houses do it right, it's not going to have any impact on society or vulnerable people.

I was in the gaming industry for a few years, and we had all the latest well-known programs in place to identify problem gamblers. But, you know, with new products, as the revenue increases, it's probably going to have a bigger negative impact on those people.

So, "If you do it right, don't worry. It's OK. It's not going to be a problem."

I'm saying that if you increase gambling, it's going to be a bigger problem. I'm not saying don't control it, but if you make the product more attractive, you're going to increase the problem for vulnerable bettors, is that correct?

Ms. White: Senator Massicotte, that's an important point. That's why we're such advocates for investing in prevention education and early detection. The sooner we start doing this, in terms of informing Canadians, the better.

You're right. There are people in society who, unfortunately, are at risk for gambling addiction for a variety of reasons. Research shows that youth, young adults, men who gamble across many gambling channels, and people who have experienced or are experiencing some kind of mental health condition are at higher risk. When developing responsible gambling and harm prevention programs, it is essential to develop and tailor them so that the messages these populations receive are appropriate, accessible, and culturally sensitive.

Great point, and I hope I have answered your question in my response.

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Mr. Phillips: As a fully recovered lawyer, I am not going to offer any particular legal opinion on the question of whether the current Criminal Code provisions are sufficient. I know that the panel, including Donald Bourgeois, is probably the most qualified gambling law expert in the country. They will certainly refer to the Reesbury case, which went all the way to the Supreme Court a few years ago. That case grew out of a criminal and regulatory investigation conducted by our predecessor, the Ontario Racing Commission, with which we are now merged. Criminal Code fraud charges and Gambling Act provisions were used to address race fixing situations similar to the issue presented here.

Again, I will leave it to Mr. Bourgeois and others to consider their effectiveness.

Chair: I will give you an opportunity to ask the expert a question. Senator Wallin, if you will?

Senator Wallin: Yes, that is correct.

Senator C. Deacon: Thank you very much. I have a question for Mr. White. The Council on Responsible Gambling only operates in five provinces or territories, correct? Can you tell me a little bit about whether other states have similar organizations that help with certification to provide similar services, or whether they are not regulated at all?

Mr. White: Senator Deacon: States that are not part of the RGC certification program are regulated. Many states use the World Lottery Association certification and may have other evaluation metrics, but there is no other responsible gambling certification program in the country that they use.

RG Check is a valuable program because it provides an approach where a third party can verify that each operator is implementing the highest quality responsible gambling standards that exist.

Senator C. Deacon: I wanted to have third party certification. Thank you.

Senator Ringette: Senator Mascott asked a question, so I'll ask Mr. White a short follow-up question. Are you a for-profit or non-profit organization?

White: Senator: We are a no n-profit charitable organization in Canada.

Senator Linket: Thank you.

White: How welcome you. I am proud.

Chair: I think that proud is an important feature.

Mascot Senator Wiebe, who was certainly you, was the previous witness, and about 1 % to 3 % of you would be a problem gambler. Please tell me about those people. I think their habits are more than betting and betting. Perhaps it is a more distinctive nature that is related to the use of credit cards. Talk about those people. What are the properties of them?

Weavy: I will say briefly. There are a variety of routes to become gambling addiction, but there are some common features. People with gambling addiction tend to gamble anything. Often sick. There are health and social decision factors. It is as complicated as other addiction. Therefore, it is very important at school to be able to make a decision after receiving education on gambling mechanisms and getting enough information when reaching the statutory age.

I think it's important to know that we are affected and not. BCLC is based on evidence. We want to measure everything. We want to confirm our influence and know the risk level of players. I use something like a gambling serious index. At present, we really emphasize outcomes, not only see if there are X, Y, and Z, but also see if we are changing. It is complicated. It is difficult to change someone's actions, so you have to take the baby steps, and you must know that you are influenced or not.

There are days when you can fully understand the game mechanism than the day before, and increase your time and money you spend. Gambling is absorbed at that moment. We have a lot of tools to remind you of "you have used this much now."

For this reason, there is a specially trained game sense advisor, providing support not only online but also in all venues.

It is necessary to continue to see the potential harm related to gambling and gambling, and there are so many routes to get there. It was not concise, but it was an attempt.

Thank you for the Senator Mashikot.

Chair: Thank you. thank you very much.

That's all for questions on this panel. I think we covered many areas here. I would like to thank the panel members' testimony and thank the members of the Diet quickly. I think we were able to achieve a lot of things with this panel.

Today's testimony is very thankful. Thank you for gathering. I know that it was a sudden request.

I want to move to the next panel.

Donald Bourgeois, and Paul Melia from Canada Sports Ethical Center. First of all, from Bourgeova. I think it is an opportunity to consider the matchfix problem in more detailed matchfix issues. Let's get started. If possible, please give you a short statement from you.

Donald Bourgeois, Court Attorney, Individual: Thank you for your invitation. The first thing I would like to say is that this bill is a wonderful step that supports both law enforcement and regulatory authorities in order to deal with problems such as matchfixing. Modern regulators, such as AGCO, have tools and experiences to identify and prevent the risks of the 80 0-match and the same illegal acts to prevent and prevent them. These tools can also help the enforcement agency get the evidence necessary to investigate allegations.

Before I explain the specific grounds, I would like to explain my career a little. I have been involved in gaming sector since the 1980s, and have been working as a policy advisor and lawyer in government agencies and recently in private sector. The alcohol gaming committee was an advisor and deputy registrant, and the Gambling Advanced Subcommittee Coordination Committee was the representative of Ontario. Gaming is also a par t-time professor and a joint director of Osgoode Professional Development, and has been writing and giving lectures. It is necessary to see the potential harm related to gambling and gambling continuously, and there are so many routes to get there. It was not concise, but it was an attempt.

Thank you for the Senator Mashikot.

Chair: Thank you. thank you very much.

That's all for questions on this panel. I think we covered many areas here. I would like to thank the Panel members' testimony and thank the members of the Diet quickly. I think we were able to achieve a lot of things with this panel.

Today's testimony is very thankful. Thank you for gathering. I know that it was a sudden request.

I want to move to the next panel.

Before I explain the specific grounds, I would like to explain my career a little. I have been involved in gaming sector since the 1980s, and have been working as a policy advisor and lawyer in government agencies and recently in private sector. The alcohol gaming committee was an advisor and deputy registrant, and the Gambling Advanced Subcommittee Coordination Committee was the representative of Ontario. Gaming is also a par t-time professor and a joint director of Osgoode Professional Development, and has been writing and giving lectures. It is necessary to continue to see the potential harm related to gambling and gambling, and there are so many routes to get there. It was not concise, but it was an attempt.

Thank you for the Senator Mashikot.

Chair: Thank you. thank you very much.

Today's testimony is very thankful. Thank you for gathering. I know that it was a sudden request.

I want to move to the next panel.

I agree with the Senator.

Recently, he has also been a c o-chair of the Canadian Gaming Association's regulations working group, and is specifically examining what regulatory structures are desirable for regulatory authorities, suppliers and operators throughout Canada.

One of the few advantages of me, like me, is that I can gain relevant experience of what works and why it works. It is important to identify risks and reduce risks in order to prevent, detect and sanction inappropriate acts in both the enforcement of the law and the regulatory system.

I think this bill is a wonderful move forward. Matchfix and similar implications have been sufficiently dealt with by criminal laws in a regulated system. Matchfix is illegal in Article 209 and 380, which is the provisions of fraud. Leaseberry's Canadian Supreme Court ruling is very clear. For me, this ruling has raised concerns that the 80 0-match in Canada would not be applied. In detail, the court clearly shows that the wrongdoing is a trigger for a matchfixing crime and a cheating at play crime.

I think there are two important points in the Leaseberry case. One is that the general public can be considered as complying with the management regulatory system. Second, Lease Berry was arrested because of the regulatory system, and his fraud was evaluated in light of the regulatory system. Without a regulatory system, it is doubtful whether a case bearing his name occurred.

The opportunity to provide by the bill C-218 is to enable a strong management regulation system that does not currently exist. This bill does not allow someone to publish a book. The bill is recognized by the Crown Corporation is to carry out and manage lottery schemes, including sports gambling in a single event. The sports gambling for a single event to be provided is highly regulated. Some of the speakers the other day and today commented on this regulation system. The legal gaming sector in Canada is very regulated, and its regulations are regarded as one of the most important assets. Regulations provide fair competition so that Betters and the general public can be confident in the lottery scheme. Recently, he has also been a c o-chair of the Canadian Gaming Association's regulation working group, and has specifically examined what regulatory structures are desirable for regulatory authorities, suppliers and operators throughout Canada. Masu.

I agree with the Senator.

Regulators such as the AGCO and the Gaming Policy and Enforcement Branch (GPEB) are in charge of risk identification, risk mitigation, and prevention. They decide who can provide gaming services in the region and what games are allowed. It's not just any game. There's no lottery system or betting on children's sports in sports that don't have some sort of regulatory model or disciplinary system, as the NHL and NFL do. The CFL speaker commented on some of that. This is not a smuggling operation. This is a highly regulated system.

I agree with the Senator.

The last thing I want to say is that this is not the 1920s. It's not the Black Sox era. The gaming sector has changed a lot in the last century. The need to ban regulated single-event sports betting is long gone. The conditions that allowed for match fixing, so prominent in the Black Sox 100 years ago, are no longer there. Thank you.

I agree with the Senator.

Senator, let me pause for a moment with our next witness, Ms. Melia. Don't worry about it. Senator Wallin is unfortunately going to have to leave the room, but I know she wants to pursue this issue, so I'm going to turn the floor over to her and let Ms. Bourgeois ask her some questions. Then we can turn it over to Mr. Melia and then of course have a full discussion with the two witnesses. Thank you. Go ahead.

I agree with the Senator.

Everyone says that Mr. Bourgeois is an expert on this, but do we need a specific criminal code provision? Do we need a criminal code authorization or article that specifically makes match fixing illegal?

I agree with the Senator.

Senator Wallin: Do you think it's covered by the rules?

Mr. Bourgeois: I think it's covered in two ways. First, there is an existing provision in section 209 of the Criminal Code dealing with fraud, which is combined with section 380. The Supreme Court of Canada has clearly stated that fraudulent conduct not only during the match, but also in the lead-up to the match, is sufficient.

The second aspect is that a regulatory structure linked to the connection with the enforcement agency and the sector in the sector enables the problem of the problem arising from the matchfix.

Let's give an example. Any criminal law or regulatory structure cannot prevent people who do fraudulent things. Can the risk be identified and reduced it? Is it possible to prevent it before and reduce the occurrence of the incident? Second, can the criminals prevent benefits from there?

In the sports gambling system, there are regulators that monitor what is happening, and some operators monitor what is happening and identify the risk. If Match Fixer Don Bourgeova is trying to bet on an unusual situation, the operator can identify it using accessed data. The operator is obliged to report it to the regulatory authorities. In addition, the operator will not pay Don Bourgeois until he is convinced that there is no matchmaker.

In the regulated industries, the abnormalities of the miscellaneous acts can be reduced and removed.

Mr. Warin: Thank you for your reply. thank you very much.

Chair: Senator Waulin, you are about to depart, but think on an airplane for three and a half or four hours.

Melia, please give a simple speech. sorry to bother you.

I agree with the Senator.

The Canadian Sports Ethics Center (CCES) supports the bill C-218. We believe that a regulated framework is needed to properly manage a single event in Canada. Technology and organizational crime have been binding for many years, and the current laws in Canada, which prohibits single event betting, is almost meaningless. Legalizing and regulating single event betting in Canada will be an effective strategy to reduce damage. However, through the threat of the game operation, there is a risk related to the safety of athletes and the perfection of Canadian sports. The second aspect is that a regulatory structure linked to the connection with the law enforcement agency or in the sector has prevented the problem caused by the matchfix.

In the regulated industries, the abnormalities of the miscellaneous acts can be reduced and removed.

Mr. Warin: Thank you for your reply. thank you very much.

Chair: Senator Waulin, you are about to depart, but think on an airplane for three and a half or four hours.

Melia, please give a simple speech. sorry to bother you.

Hello, Paul Melia, Chairman of the Canadian Sports Ethics Center and Chief Executive Officer: Chairman and members. Thank you for your invitation today.

The Canadian Sports Ethics Center (CCES) supports the bill C-218. We believe that a regulated framework is needed to properly manage a single event in Canada. Technology and organizational crime have been binding for many years, and the current laws in Canada, which prohibits single event betting, is almost meaningless. Legalizing and regulating single event betting in Canada will be an effective strategy to reduce damage. However, through the threat of the game operation, there is a risk related to the safety of athletes and the perfection of Canadian sports. The second aspect is that a regulatory structure linked to the connection with the enforcement agency and the sector in the sector enables the problem of the problem arising from the matchfix.

In the regulated industries, the abnormalities of the miscellaneous acts can be reduced and removed.

Mr. Warin: Thank you for your reply. thank you very much.

Chair: Senator Waulin, you are about to depart, but think on an airplane for three and a half or four hours.

Melia, please give a simple speech. sorry to bother you.

Hello, Paul Melia, Chairman of the Canadian Sports Ethics Center and Chief Executive Officer: Chairman and members. Thank you for your invitation today.

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